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Class Categories

How about adding categories for champion classes, it would be useful imo. Champions like Jaheira and others offer bonuses to specific classes and it would be nice to know which champions share the same class for this type of skill bonuses.

What it implies is creating new categories for each class type (Category:Fighter, ...Rogue, ...Cleric, ...Wizard, etc) and making edits to the Champion template so that the class field value provides a link to that category in the code. I'm confident I can make these changes myself but I'm posting about it here first mostly to avoid any potential issue with the wiki admins. I'm a wiki admin myself and I wouldn't want a new editor to start out by making broad changes like that.

Admins: feel free to comment on this suggestion!

Cheers,
Serrydian (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Not sure about editing the templates, especially for champions with multiple classes... but adding new categories doesn't seem like a bad idea. Thunder 2700 (talk) 06:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'll create the categories and look at the Champion template afterwards. Maybe there's a way to add a "class2" parameter with the same if function and make the value appear after the "class" param on the same line, separated by " / ". We'll see. Thanks for your reply, Serrydian (talk) 00:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How will you deal with Champions like Korth? Samurai (Fighter) must remain intact. (So no changing it to Samurai/Fighter or anything.) Hm... Thunder 2700 (talk) 14:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I've treated Korth and Spurt's classes as subclasses of the Fighter and Rogue classes respectively, have a look at the Champions category tree. It goes Champions > Classes > Fighter > Samurai (Fighter) in Korth's case. And for the changes to the Champion template, I think it turned out ok, not perfectly done but flexible enough. Serrydian (talk) 22:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Uniting this wiki with Fandom's Idle Champions community

For those who have not yet heard: Last year, Gamepedia and Fandom joined forces and are now two platforms on the same network. Later this year, we'll even become one unified platform. The teams at both Gamepedia and Fandom want to encourage our communities to work together now instead of splitting their efforts and competing with each other for readers and new editors.

I'd like to know how all of you here feel about uniting with Fandom's Idle Champions community. That would mean we archive one wiki - lock it from editing but keep the pages accessible to readers - and put a banner up that directs visitors towards the other, active wiki. Anyone who used to edit the now-archived wiki would be able to contribute to the active wiki, and any content on one side that's missing on the other can be moved over with edit histories intact. Note: No merger will take place if both communities don't agree to it.

The advantages of becoming one community working together are clear: By working together, all fans of Idle Champions could build a resource on the game more effectively, keep it up-to-date more easily, and players would no longer be confused as to which site they should turn to for information.

There are two questions

• Are you interested in merging with your partner community on Fandom?
• If so, where should the future active wiki live?

Both wikis have significant amounts of content. The Fandom wiki receives about 142,000 pageviews per month. Here on Gamepedia, it's about 124,000 per month. That would make Fandom the more likely choice, but what really matters is where editors want to edit. Could you see yourself contributing to the Fandom wiki? Would you love to see the two communities united, but only if it's here on Gamepedia? Would you prefer to keep the two communities separate entirely? Please speak up!

Can't wait to hear what you think! --Pcj (talk) 20:54, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Here are my thoughts about merging with Fandom: Pageviews are nearly identical with a 18,000 view difference per month. Just from that, I wouldn't call the Fandom wiki the more likely choice as the amount of pageviews are pretty even with each other. I'm willing to believe that most of Fandom's pageviews can be contributed to the Combinations page and where both wikis are advertised.

Considering the content across both wikis, I would say the Gamepedia is the ideal wiki. Gamepedia is much more up-to-date with the current content in this ever-changing game than Fandom. Trying to update every page on Fandom to match the same information on Gamepedia would be a nightmare of a challenge and completely unnecessary in my opinion, considering the general page layout of every page and the templates involved. In addition, I find the Fandom wiki much more difficult to navigate and the Fan Feed to be quite annoying.

I would like to say that the only things that Fandom has over Gamepedia are the Combinations page, the (former) Event Token Calculator, and the ability to comment easily on almost every page. The List of combinations on Fandom's Combinations page is constantly updated unlike the rest of the wiki, from what I could see. The Event Token Calculator on Fandom is also nice, but it broke during the Fandom/Gamepedia merge and hasn't been fixed since.

If our editors on Gamepedia were to give the same attention to our Combinations page as Fandom's page, I believe pageviews on the Fandom page would drop considerably.

• Am I interested in merging with your partner community on Fandom?

I am not sure. The "any content on one side that's missing on the other can be moved over with edit histories intact" statement is a bit of a concern as both wikis have pages with identical names and file attachments that could be the same across both wikis but have different names. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what is going on here and what will happen. As long as we have input on what gets moved or not, I would accept the merge provided that the future active wiki lives on Gamepedia.

• If so, where should the future active wiki live?

The future active wiki should live on Gamepedia if we were to merge. --Thunder 2700 (talk) 01:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I am currently the most active editor of idle champions on gamepedia, before choosing this platform to edit I had already observed the fandom, I found the layout very polluted, and they only update combinations and nothing else, when I want to see combinations I look for the discord or the steam forum. But the discussion is about the merger of the two wikis. Will one no exist anymore? The fandom is far behind in updates with 16 only in combinations last 30 days, I think I would stop editing instead of trying to update everything again, that's my opinion. ThousandDaggers (talk) 03:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)